tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8487005794524062321.post2871994752689724540..comments2023-07-07T02:27:23.473-07:00Comments on Ningen's Blog: The little wheel that could not, part 2Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8487005794524062321.post-23123439391523352742012-06-30T01:08:16.230-07:002012-06-30T01:08:16.230-07:00The 9/11 tragedy gives the biggest impact for the ...The 9/11 tragedy gives the biggest impact for the people all over the world. A lot of people give sympathy on that matter.driving lessons redditchhttp://www.coopers-driving-school.com/driving_school_redditch.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8487005794524062321.post-54291375738556100842009-12-16T16:34:35.568-08:002009-12-16T16:34:35.568-08:00Consider this:
1. To dislodge this panel 12 separ...Consider this:<br /><br />1. To dislodge this panel 12 separate connection points had to be defeated simultaneously, otherwise the panel would hinge where there most resistance.<br /><br />2. To dislodge the force would have had to be extraordinary because the windows would blow out first, thereby reducing the surface area that could accept the pushing forces.<br /><br />3. What are the chances the wheel arrived at the window opening upright and centered on a window opening?<br /><br />4. What are the chances of the wheel making it through the core area intact to then wedge itself perfectly in the opening and then stay lodged when the panel struck the ground?<br /><br />5. What are the chances that this massive panel falls to the ground at 8:46am, on a workday, in downtown Manhattan, without killing anyone or damaging any vehicles?<br /><br />This is too unbelievable. Add this to the hundred other anomalies we have found from 9/11.kawikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8487005794524062321.post-79658659952480182612007-01-24T10:02:00.000-08:002007-01-24T10:02:00.000-08:00This is great stuff, Ningen. Keep up the good wor...This is great stuff, Ningen. Keep up the good work!<br /><br />FredAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8487005794524062321.post-33906455071141270952007-01-16T16:47:00.000-08:002007-01-16T16:47:00.000-08:00Spooked said: "there's also the matter of the fact...Spooked said: "there's also the matter of the fact that if those columns had really fallen THAT far DOWN, they would have chewed up the street quite a bit more."<br /><br />One would think so. One possibility is that the panel landed in such a way as to slide down the little inclined street between Liberty and Cedar and came to rest there. It seems the panel would sink into soft asphalt and not move, and even if the panel landed some tens of feet closer to the North Tower and came to rest there, my conclusion doesn't change.Ningenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07714390119215804335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8487005794524062321.post-77436001680653433532007-01-16T16:02:00.000-08:002007-01-16T16:02:00.000-08:00Assuming that the panel is missing in the photos a...Assuming that the panel is missing in the photos and was knocked off, I concur with Spooked that the panel was moved to Cedar Street, possibly for a legitimate reason like clearing rescue routes on Liberty Street, and that the wheel was planted in the Cedar Street panel. I think that the other wheel could not have it through the core, as shown by NIST's models and my own common sense. <br /><br />Even if wheel found at Recter and West did make it through the core, the wheel could not be propelled to Recter and West even if the resistance of this panel were removed. Therefore, the possibility of the panel being knocked off does not change my conclusion about the Recter and West wheel. <br /><br />The main point of Part 2 was to address the possibility left open by NIST that the Recter and West wheel flew through a door opened by this dislodged panel. My conclusion is that I have disproved this theory by showing that even if the wheel exited at the point of this dislodged panel, it would not have had the residual velocity to fly to Recter and West. Further, I have shown that the Cedar Street wheel was planted in the panel, and the panel it was wedged in may also have been planted on Cedar Street.Ningenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07714390119215804335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8487005794524062321.post-62223211119908675502007-01-16T15:35:00.000-08:002007-01-16T15:35:00.000-08:00Thanks, Spooked, you're right -- I mistook the wes...Thanks, Spooked, you're right -- I mistook the west face for the south face of the North Tower in Figure 6-14. It's hard to draw any conclusions from that picture because smoke obscures where Columns 29-31 would be. It does look like there is a blackened area beneath the smoke in the approximate location of the panel that was knocked off. <br /><br />I agree that if the panel is indeed missing in the south face photos taken prior to the explosion of the North Tower, then the panel must have been carried to Cedar Street.<br /><br />I've heard that some massive materials were blown over 500 feet by the explosions of the towers, and it's possible the side of the Cedar Street that suffered most damage is face down. It seems the wheel in that case would also be on the face down side. I think you're right that if it was propelled there by explosion, the wheel was likely planted. <br /><br />Even if a door had been opened by this panel, which I think I have ruled out, the wheel found further away at Recter and West would not have left the North Tower at 105 mph. It is doubtful it coud have gotten through the core at all. <br /><br />Thanks for the comments and catching my mistake, Spooked.Ningenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07714390119215804335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8487005794524062321.post-11890591568097543782007-01-16T15:18:00.000-08:002007-01-16T15:18:00.000-08:00I guess another possibility is that the columns we...I guess another possibility is that the columns were a mock up of WTC columns that were standing by waiting to be used on 9/11.spookedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8487005794524062321.post-27492301116425322932007-01-16T15:16:00.000-08:002007-01-16T15:16:00.000-08:00there's also the matter of the fact that if those ...there's also the matter of the fact that if those columns had really fallen THAT far DOWN, they would have chewed up the street quite a bit more.<br /><br />This pic from my blog gives a different view of the columns that allows a better assessment of where they were:<br />http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/wheel%20in%20broken%20steel%20columns.jpgspookedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8487005794524062321.post-43549605890737916892007-01-16T15:02:00.000-08:002007-01-16T15:02:00.000-08:00That tire in the columns has got to be some kind o...That tire in the columns has got to be some kind of sick joke. I saw that item in the NIST report some time back and still can't get over how absurd it is.<br /><br />And this is before I even saw from your post how damn far away that set of columns was. There is no way in the world those columns flew so far from the tower. They are just too big and heavy. I don't even know how they could have been propelled even if much of the plane hit them smack dab from the other side. But if they came from that SE corner? NO WAY, since there could be no direct hit from anything that entered on the center of the north face.<br /><br />The map here looks like it is at least 600 feet from Tower 1 to Cedar street:<br />http://www.google.com/maps?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&channel=s&tab=wl&q=<br /><br />The only possibilities are:<br />1) the columns fell much closer to WTC1, and were moved to cedar street as the wheel was planted.<br /><br />2) POWERFUL explosives were planted directly behind the set of columns to blow them out and then the wheel was planted afterwards. The problem with the second case is the columns should have been more damaged by the explosives. So I think the former (1) is the case. <br /><br />It seems possible if the columns fell in Liberty street that people were instructed to move them out of the way of rescue vehicles and the columns were quickly picked up and dumped on Cedar street. <br /><br />Lastly, in figure 6-14-- is the south face the large front face or the smoke-distorted face to the right? (That bowing explanation is bunk, btw. That's worse than anything even a lame conspiracy theorist would come up with).spookedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.com